HP Book 7

Parsifal · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject:

Thats when he dropped it. We just went to see "Order of the Phoenix" at a advance screening on the 10th and after the movie went to great lengths ot explain how two or 3 instances in the movie of Harry being touchy were actually greater by several factors in the books.
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Dipsosis · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject:

The point is, even when Harry went all emo, it was entirely consistent with the characterization. It affected his relationships with his friends, and his capacity to be magic-savior-of-the-world-wunderkid. That was an interesting evolution in the character that punctuated his adolescence, growth, and eventual coming to grips with the fact that he's gotta throw down with Vader by himself.
If you consider the alternatives, that book would've been even more boring without us wanting to slap his bitch ass.

Parsifal · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject:

In which case you would say that Steve was merely a casualty of his low emo threshold?
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Sadsiren · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject:

trebuchet · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:15 am Post subject:

I would have to say that wanting to slap Umbridge and wanting to slap Harry are two different things, entirely. Rowling has successfully created a world with its own rules and characters and settings that have become almost intimately familiar to us. Enter Umbridge, sort of an "alien invader", who goes about mucking things up for everybody in the most frustrating way imaginable.

Harry, on the other hand, is the primary player in this now familiar world and we have come to see the world through his eyes. And we've come to trust what he sees. That trust was shaken a bit because he was starting to look at the world differently - partly because the world was changing and partly because he was changing. We were forced to either follow his lead or balk at his "emo-ness." Most of us balked...and the slappings ensued.
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jynexia · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

Yes book comes out friday at Midnight. I'm going to a Ball at borders that evening that should be lots of fun. (All in NYC are welcome to [and should] join: It's at the borders at Columbus circle).

Harry's emo-ness was definitely over done in the fifth book, which is the only thing I think the movie did better at. Umbridge was a required distraction from that. I think that Rowling could have dumbed down the emo a little, but as you all were saying it's believable that a growing adolescent that has had all this life threatening crap thrown at him would be come emo. In fact in real life more emo has come from much less. So Harry can be forgiven, but I don't think he matured all that much in the sixth book, which presents a problem to me. Hopefully in the seven (he'll be 17 now so this should be the case) he will have matured out of emo and into ass-kicking hero. We shall further discuss this on monday. Speak of which. Who else is not sleeping this weekend because of the release of this book?
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Parsifal · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject:

jynexia · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject:

I guess thats why you can forgive Harry for being emo. Though he is a rich little brat, he does have Death following him around waiting for the next person that dies in his arms.
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Aranthos · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject:

And to think that this topic was moving along so fast, then, the day before the launch of the book that spawned this topic, it died. How come we haven't had great long discussions about the events in book 7 yet? Why do I have to resurrect dead threads all the time? Why am I so determined to get the latest post in each and every forum here? Why did I just say that? Why am i so far off topic?

I'll shut up now.
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Parsifal · Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:56 am Post subject:

Because you're DOMINATING!!
*systematically removes your forum dominance*
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Aranthos · Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:04 am Post subject:

There is a flaw with both of our plans Steve.

When everyone (or most of you anyway) in America is sleeping, like now, I can post away to my heart's content safe in the knowledge that I can reestablish my dominance. However, you American folks all have to fight for it, so while I may be the person most able ot achieve dominance, you guys can, if you work together, remove it in about 30 seconds by each posting in a different thread.

Damn.

Still off topic.
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Mike · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:

Bought it on Saturday morning.... finished it saturday evening. It was gnarly, but I felt cheated because adding 5 pages to the "last" chapter would have made me a lot happier. Still... good shit.

Sadsiren · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:16 am Post subject:

I listened to the audio book, took me a few days to finish. I'd been checking this post to see if anyone else would bring the topic back up, but no one had. I'd be up for discussion on it.

jynexia · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:48 am Post subject:

So discuss. I was wait so that everyone could finish properly. Now that we have all had our excuses.
Warning spoiler will occur in this next paragraph

I felt that though a lot of key information was given, about 200 pages after the intro., (ie after the first 20), the book was rather dull with the exception of the three kids fighting, and even then it wasnt that exciting. You would think with all the trials Harry goes through he would be a little more mature and less whiny. But the rest of the book was great and made up for the semi-boring part. About 20 pages before the loophole was revealed I suspected that was the loophole that could save his life however never expected Rowling to actually do it. Very happy with the ending; however, like mike, I would like a little more on the end. The epilogue was great though. I am a little confused about whether Harry ended up raising Teddy though.

So what did everyone else think?
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Mike · Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:33 am Post subject:

I liked it enough to read it all in a day. It was kinda slow, but I'm ok with slow if I know it's gonna get good. If she added in some celebration/reuniting before the epilogue... I'd have been 100% content... but I felt cheated there. Good stuff tho.